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What gets in the way of peace?

Posted on Nov 11th, 2007 by Michel : Non-profit Thinker Michel
This is in Response to the Questions and Reflections for November 11, 2007:

Stimulus.

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BeLynn : Big Heart
28 minutes later
BeLynn said

AH! You have dared to open another door. Thank You so much for not only your contribution to peace but to providing us a different view.
Much Love & Peace

Michel : Non-profit Thinker
42 minutes later
Michel said

I should say sensical stimulus. 

After I lost my memory, while trickling back into consciousenss, I realized that heaven (heavenly peace) is simply the absence of physical stimulus.  

Funny isn't it that we seek to fill our minds with stimulus (sometimes to appease the drives and volitions) but these move us farther from our goal.  We are such odd beings, huh?

BeLynn : Big Heart
about 3 hours later
BeLynn said

Let me play with this idea a bit … (it is a stimulus itself you know) … thus I am being stimulated … do I consider myself to be at peace right now? Yes. However, you mention “heavenly Peace” and I think it is this notion of a different level of Peace that needs consideration with physical stimuli. I do think we have different levels of Peace both indiviually and collectively. I do not think I am experiencing “heavenly Peace” right now but I have experienced it and it has been when all other physical stimuli has been at a minimum.
(I must now go back to my blog and spell your title correctly)

Michel : Non-profit Thinker
about 5 hours later
Michel said

I think we are discussing two different kinds of peace.  The peace that is introduced as a stimulus itself and the peace that arises from your soul when it isn't in competition with stimulus- yes?

So what gets in the way of peace? Stimulus.

The other kind is manufactured by the Illusion-  right?

BeLynn : Big Heart
about 22 hours later
BeLynn said

Well … yes … the illusion can be that we're being harmed or going to be harmed when we really are not being … or … that we're not being harmed when in fact we are under attack and being harmed.
We need to not be harmed (damaged, disabled, injured, killed) to remain comfortably alive and when ever we think these things might happen our Peace is unavailable until the perceived threat is resolved.  
Then we may be under attack in some manner (actually being harmed in some way but not interpreting that as such because we've been made to believe this is just the way it is … like when a parent degrades a child repeatedly and/or physically harms them and explains to them this is how it is done … this is for their own good … this is them showing their love etc… a child can begin to believe it's ok for harm to occur in order to keep harm from occuring …  this is similar to how wars continue … anyone who has killed during a war (at least at the moment they kill) have justified the act by believing the harm they are inflicting will stop further harm … yeh … we've created one heck of a grand illusion on this planet but the most damaging illusion is that we are not all one. Well this is my view anyway … It does all boil down to stimulus. 
Much Love & Peace
BeLynn

Michel : Non-profit Thinker
4 days later
Michel said

I really like this input.  We all are aware of inaccuracies in judgement.  “…that we're being harmed or going to be harmed when we really are not being … or … that we're not being harmed when in fact we are under attack and being harmed.”

I would like to say this is a particular topic in my life right now but if I alter the word “harm” and insert any other infraction of just acts, it is indicative of most of my life stages.  Simply, We perceive one way but when our heart counters, we have to stop and note the disharmony.  If the mind and heart aren't in agreement, we have to stop.  Is life this simple? 


Your words remind me of a book I read in the 90's, People of the Lie by Scott Peck.  I noticed they reissued it recently.   Did you read it?  I have it on my bookshelf but it's been so long I'd mislead if I tried to explain it.  However your words reminded me of Peck's work, Parents and Preachers who manipulate in the name of goodness.

For me, right now, I'm dealing with a Light Healer who has offered some perverse suggestions.  As a member of my close knit community, I can forgive and forget or loose our common friends.  I keep chanting, “we are all one” but I don't want to be 'one with him' until he cleans up his intent!  Ouch.  This human stuff is hard!

Leo : Leo, life cultivator.
about 1 month later
Leo said

Scot Peck, a road less traveled. Dont know the one here., People of the lie. Any how, most of us got lies. Psychosis, neurosis. Of nessecity there seems to be a need to fill in the blanks. Like a patient asking a doctor, “what is it”. The doctor is profesional and is expected to know all. Not knowing all he needs to fill in the blanks, lest he appear inept.
Wish it were not so. Wish we all could accept responsibility for our condition.Having writ that, it dawn upon me council i have sought recently, forgive me.

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